University of Minnesota, Morris
MINUTES--1996-97 CURRICULUM COMMITTEE MEETING #26
14, 1997; 3:00 p.m.; Behmler Conference Room
Present: Ballou, Davis, Farrell, Ellis, Frenier, Hansen, Imholte, Korth,
J. Lee, Schuman, Thielke, Whelan
Absent: Bauer, Kissock, M. Lee, Vickstrom
indicated that CC members should have received copies of all of the semester
proposals that have been submitted so far from the Social Sciences Division.
Copies were distributed today of the social science major, women's studies,
and geography proposals, as well as all of the Education Division proposals.
Lee indicated that only one proposal is missing for the Social Sciences:
Liberal Arts for the Human Services. Only minor revisions are required on
that proposal, so it will soon be submitted to the Dean's Office.
CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF HUMANITIES DIVISION
Schuman reminded the group, as already
communicated at the last meeting, in the minutes, and via email, that the
CC had already discussed extensively the theatre arts and music proposals
and their inclusion of more than 40 credits in the discipline of the major.
CC members were to familiarize themselves with the arguments presented at
the last meeting and start this meeting with a vote. He wondered if CC members
wished to vote on the two proposals together or separately. He assumed the
vote would be together. There were no objections.
MOTION (Understood): To accept the semester proposals from theatre
arts and music as they were submitted.
Schuman indicated that a "no" vote would mean that the proposals
must be referred back to the disciplines to come back with majors of 40
credits or less.
Ballou asked for clarification. Are we voting for no more
than 40 credits in a particular area, like ArtS, or in the major? Schuman
said the 40 credit limit is in a particular discipline.
Lee was very sympathetic to the music and theatre disciplines,
but felt that to approve these exceptions would "open a can of worms."
Other disciplines might come back with majors of 40 or 45 credits. If the
Campus Assembly saw these two disciplines as the only exceptions, that would
Whelan wondered, if these proposals were approved, if students
would still be required to take 80 credits outside the discipline of the
major. Schuman didn't think we had such a requirement now. It is stated
as a 60-credit limit in a single discipline. Mooney noted that the General
Education Requirements do currently say that 90 credits of general education
are required. Schuman asked if music majors currently need 186 credits to
graduate. Thielke said that they do.
VOTE: In favor--3; opposed--4; abstentions--1 (3-4-1).
Schuman indicated that the motion had failed by a narrow vote. Thus,
the CC is sending the proposals back to the disciplines of theatre arts
and music, saying they must come back with majors of 40 credits or less.
He will send the remaining Humanities proposals forward to Campus Assembly,
if they are approved today, without waiting for the revisions.
Frenier asked if there was to be no semester course in recent
literary criticism. Schuman wondered if she was referring to criticism or
theory. Frenier said she meant theory. Farrell thought there was a literary
theory course on the mapping form. Schuman said the Literary Criticism course
under quarters does include theory in the description. That course is being
deleted and the content is being incorporated into other courses. Farrell
noted that Literary Criticism has not been required for the major and has
been offered in alternate years.
Hansen wondered if there was going to be an Honors version
of the College Writing course. Farrell said he suspected that there would
be an Honors course, but nothing has come forward about a semesters Honors
Program. Schuman noted that Professor O'Reilly is chairing the Honors Program
Committee. Lee said O'Reilly had asked for a list of semesters Honors courses.
Hansen wondered if everyone was assuming that there would be an Honors Program
under semesters. Schuman said that is the assumption, but we don't know
Schuman noted that this is the smallest major in the Humanities
Division, but not the slightest. There were no comments on the proposal.
Frenier wondered why the course on Major Hispanic Women Writers
was being deleted. Farrell said the course was offered in alternate years
and did not enroll many students. The person responsible for the course
decided to integrate the content into other courses. Ballou asked if the
other writing courses include women authors. Farrell said, knowing the current
Spanish faculty, that they do. Frenier noted that Span 3801 does mention
some women authors. Schuman commented that the discipline had removed mention
of specific authors in general in their course descriptions. He thought
it was good to note the CC concern that it is important to include female
Speech Communication Proposal
Schuman asked for any comments. There were none.
Schuman asked for any comments. There were none.
Humanities Division Package
Schuman said that concluded the entire set of Humanities Division
semester proposals. He wondered if the CC wished to vote on them as a package.
MOTION (Korth, Lee): To accept all of the semester proposals
from the Division of the Humanities, with the exception of the credits
in the discipline of the major for music and theatre arts.
VOTE: Unanimous in favor (8-0-0).
SOCIAL SCIENCES DIVISION SEMESTER PROPOSALS:
Lee said he had spent a considerable amount of time going over the semester
proposals in the Division of the Social Sciences. Schuman noted that there
is no bulletin copy for this Division, but there are mapping forms. Lee
said he had noted some discrepancies in mathematics with the numbering guidelines
and thought that some of the math course numbers listed might have to be
Korth was concerned about the loss of introductory-level courses
in economics. There is less opportunity for non-majors to enjoy this discipline.
Lee said that is unfortunate, but the faculty had to reduce the number of
courses for semesters. They felt the Principles course was a better course
to keep. He said he would pass along the concern.
Ballou wondered what the rationale was for having so many
two-credit courses. Lee said it works better for the discipline and students
are in agreement. The two-credit option is available only for elective courses.
Faculty feel it is better for students to be able to stop after two credits
if they want. Schuman said his understanding was that those are really two-credit
courses, not "4-credit courses in sheep's clothing." Lee said
they are two-credit courses. Thielke wondered how these 2-credit offerings
would be listed in the Class Schedule. Lee said each 2-credit course
would meet for 7.5 weeks for the full number of hours each week, so if the
student takes the full 4 credits, they go for the entire semester. Korth
said he was not sure it was the CC's concern, but there is no withdrawal
period for students taking the second 7.5 weeks.
Whelan said he was talking to a Twin Cities faculty member
about the pre-pharmacy curriculum and he said that students must have microeconomics.
Are we inviting problems by renaming the course and eliminating the terms
"microeconomics" and "macroeconomics"? Schuman thought
that would depend on what the course description says. Lee said the course
will include some micro and some macro. Schuman thought it was worth raising
this issue with economics faculty. In retitling the course, are they causing
problems? Lee said he hoped the requirements might change to accept the
Principles course. Whelan wondered if this was a national trend to go back
to a combined course. Lee did not think so; it was done do reduce the number
of courses. Thielke said there are other colleges which have single introductory
economics courses, but the bulletin description spells out the content.
Whelan said he also was concerned about dropping so many
lower-level courses. Ballou wondered how we would know if we have enough
general education courses. Schuman said that the Campus Assembly first has
to approve the general education proposal, then Thielke can see how the
semester proposals fit with the new GER.
Schuman thought part of the explanation for the economics
proposal is student demand. There are more economics majors than the discipline
can handle, so they don't need to recruit majors.
Schuman noted that management is a separate major from economics.
They have many credits in the major, but 40 or fewer in the Mgmt discipline.
Thielke wondered about the student-initiated studies (SIS).
If a student has taken the Historical Research course under quarters, will
that count as the SIS? Imholte said that it would. Lee noted that the equivalent
course under semesters is Hist 4001-4002.
Ballou noted that the discipline was deleting courses that
deal with women in history. Frenier said there were four courses under quarters:
one becomes an introductory level course and two become one. Nothing disappears.
Whelan said he was asked to raise a question about the political
science proposal by a statistician. Under the present bulletin, there is
a statistics course which uses the same materials as a political science
course, but students could get credit for both courses. Lee said Thorson
had proposed a course like that, but concerns were raised in the Division
and he changed the course. That situation has been corrected. The course
is Pol 1300 mapped to 2101.
Korth said he did not understand the counting. The summary
says there are 20 courses, but he counted 34. Lee said there are three different
topic areas. He had checked with Mooney about counting topics courses and
was told to count only the generic heading.
Farrell thought the institution should make clear what is
to be done with topics courses. He had told faculty not to bring forward
specific topics. This confusion about topics courses keeps coming up. Lee
said the discipline could revise the forms. There are topics courses which
are not going to go away. They will usually be offered in alternate years.
Schuman thought that a course that was going to be offered regularly should
be listed as a regular course. Farrell thought there should be flexibility,
but, on the other hand, he is pretty sure which Humanities topics will be
offered in the next few years. Thielke said it was better for students'
sake to list the specific topics in the bulletin if we know which ones will
be offered. Farrell said the Humanities topics are offered when feasible.
Schuman noted that the political science discipline cannot guarantee that
their topics will be offered every time. Lee said they could list the possible
topics in the course description. Farrell wondered if Humanities could do
something similar. Schuman said they could. The rest is editorial. The CC
is getting into editorial policy rather than curricular policy. Are we comfortable
with having general topic rubrics? If so, the Dean's Office will work out
a consistent listing.
Korth said the problem with topics courses is that they
aren't listed in the bulletin. The specific topics are listed elsewhere.
He thought the specific topics should be included in the bulletin. Lee said
it is more flexible to allow for changes in the offerings. The discipline
is not trying to hide any courses.
Thielke reiterated that it is better to list the specific
topics and when they will be offered, if we know.
Schuman wondered if CC members wished to continue for an
extra 15 minutes and finish the Social Sciences proposals. The answer was
next meeting is scheduled for Friday, May 16, 9:00 a.m., Education 211,
to continue the discussion of Social Sciences semester proposals and begin
discussion of Education semester proposals.
Meeting adjourned 4:15 p.m.
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